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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:04:25 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 21 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  440

Today's Topics:
                                 ACC
                  Illinois anti scanner legislation
                      Info-Hams Digest V94 #435
                   Kenwood TH-78A *OR* Yaesu FT-530
                              Pet Peeve
                              POLICE BBS
                         software for PK 232
                 SS Jeremiah O'Brien Normandy voyage
     The Confiscated HT Story (was Illinois anti scanner legisla)
                        W2A technical question
                 Wanted Tokyo Hy-Power VHF Linear Amp

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Date: 21 Apr 94 19:09:33 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ACC
To: [e-mail]

>The London Amateur Radio Club wishes to get more information on the
>Advanced Computer Controls new interface to a pc to provide extensive
>voice message storage.
>
>We have their bulletins but apparently most of their information is
>available online through commerical email services in the US.  Is this
>information available through FTP/IP or Gopher.
>
>Any information would be of help..
>Yes. If anyone does have any info, please send me a personal reply, too.

 >Tony
 > [e-mail]  |       /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\   |

Here are two references I have for Advanced Computer Controls:

  |ACC company now on email:
  |Internet electronic mail by using the address:  [e-mail]

or to subscribe to the acc-l list send the SUBSCRIBE command to:

  |[e-mail].
  |Please note that commands are sent to Mail-Server and postings or
  |replies are sent to the list at [e-mail].

WB5FBS
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:14:27 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!olivea!news.bu.edu!att-in!att-out!walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com![e-mail]
Subject: Illinois anti scanner legislation
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Cecil A Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Text item: Text_1
>
>>Prohibits the possession of a receiver... unless the
>>device operates exclusively on alternating current power.

I note that this proposed law is not focused on scanners
in vehicles, but is, in fact, much broader in its impact.
The proposed law would effectively outlaw any handheld scanner
as well as all mobile scanners.  That seems to be total overkill.

Question - Is the information about this bill sent to ARRL?
Is the knowledge of this proposed bill also posted to
rec.radio.scanners.

>What if the alternating current power is generated in your car?
>Assuming an AC-only receiver, would it be illegal to transport
>it in a vehicle along with a dc/ac inverter?

One could argue the intent was to absolutely preclude all
mobile or portable operation, it could also be argued that
the legislation has a loophole.

I lost the original post that included the bill's full text.
Could someone please repost it or email it directly to me?

Thanks,

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Date: 21 Apr 94 10:17:28 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!deep.rsoft.bc.ca!giant![e-mail]
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #435
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (ROBERT G. PRIEZ) writes:

>He didn't use a TYPE-ACCEPTED transmitter ! (Ham gear is not type-accepted
>for commercial band use)...

:) :), I hope you put some smiley in.  First of all, it is Public
Service, not commercial. Second, he has no authority on it anyway,
regardless of the type of the radio.

However, does it make any difference when you have a life and death
situation, for emergency traffic? No.
Is it illegal by itself in US, to pocess a transmitter designed for
ham bands to have the convenient capability to transmit outside of
the ham band? No. (so I think so far, I don't know about in Canada)

So, what was your point?  I think you were just being humorous.

>WB5FBS
>[e-mail]

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Date: 21 Apr 94 08:59:43 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!deep.rsoft.bc.ca!giant![e-mail]
Subject: Kenwood TH-78A *OR* Yaesu FT-530
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Steve Haehnichen) writes:

>I'm just now shopping for a 2m/440 HT and am trying to make the same
>decision.  The local HRO has the Kenwood TH-78A for $389 and the Yaesu
>FT-530 for $399, so price doesn't seem to be a factor.

I used to live in SD and has been to that HRO many times, I was back
visiting and visited that store, oh, boy, they have more stuff now :).

>After mods, the Kenwood does these:
>  Rx:  50-180 300-400 400-512 800-950
>  Tx: 136-180         400-512

I seriously doubt if the Kenwood can lock the PLL (actually receiving)
below about 90 or 100MHz. And also transmitting the full 400-512MHz. The
display might say so, but the VFO and the rest might not.

>The Yaesu does these:
>  Rx: 110-180 300-500 800-859
>  Tx: 130-180 400-470

Only diff. is the Kenwood can do AM in all VHF and UHF (may be not 800 band)
but Yaesu can only do it in the 110 to 138MHz?? (Mine Standard C550/C558A
can do AM on all VHF but not UHF.)

>At first, I liked the idea of getting FM Broadcast Radio (88-108) on
>the Kenwood, but now I read that it's modulated differently
>(wide-band?) and doesn't come in anyway, so that's out.

Mine picked up quiet passages ok, once the loudness is out (high deviation)
then it's all clipped. Not useful at all.

>The Kenwood has a six-character alphanumeric display & memory, while
>the Yaesu does not.  Apparently, you can get an optional microphone
>for the Yaesu that does have an alpha display, but I haven't seen it,
>and I'm sure it's pricey.

Kenwood can also send alphanumeric pagings to other Kenwoods, if that is
good for you.  I really like the idea, but since most people don't like
Kenwood due to rumors of bad intermod rejection and hard to use interface,
they are not popular and thus the actual usage is not much besides few who
own it.  Yaesu 530 doesn't have alpha numeric, the speaker/mic is a back-
lit display and buttons simpler than on the radio. about $100. The new
Ft-11 micro size single band HT has alpha numeric memory but no alphanumeric
paging. (also by Yaesu.)

>The Yaesu has "CTCSS" included while it's an extra option on the
>Kenwood.  I have no idea what that feature does, but radios that have
>it seem to boast about it.  The Yaesu also has some kind of Automatic
>Tone Search feature that I don't yet understand.

I think almost all HT sold in US includes CTCSS encode and decode while
most mobile/base only includes encode and decode is optional. CTCSS is
(depends on whom you asked :) Continuous Tone Coded Squelsh System, aka
sub-audio tone, also called PL (Private Line) by Motorola, or Select Call
by GE.  It is from about 67Hz to about 250Hz selectable from a table to
key up repeaters to open squelsh on others' radios.

>Both radios can do VHF/VHF and UHF/UHF, but some people say that this
>adds interference.

Yes, as it is using the other band receiver to receive far away, thus
weakening the filter job/design.  Currently there is no good cure except
they put in multiple switched filters.

>The Yaesu has 82 memories, the Kenwood 50 (expandable to 250?).  The
>Yaesu has a light-up keypad, and I don't think the Kenwood does.  The
>Kenwood does, however, have some internal video games :-).

One BIG reason I refused to buy the Kenwood as if I need a video game,
I can get something else, even to download one for my HP48SX prog. calculator.
If there are space left in the Kenwood uP rom, why don't they put in something
useful? like calculating/estimating remaining time battery usage, may be
even some memory management software.

>The general list of recommended models seems to be: ICOM W21AT,
>Standard C558, Yaesu FT-530, Alinco DJ-580T with no mention of the

They all have merits, but the only one I would buy (again) is either
the Standard (which I have a similar model) or Yaesu.  But W21AT has
the cellular phone style microphone being lower in the battery area,
which is nice doing phonepatch.  Alinco's only merit is lower price.
Kenwood if you want the latest alphanumeric functionality (which I really
like to have, but not at a sacrifice of other areas.)

>-Steve
>Steve Haehnichen                 Vigra, Inc.  San Diego, CA
>[e-mail]                  [phone] x116   Fax: [phone]

Where is Vigra? I have lots of friends still in SD (from SDSU mostly.)
David Tse

David Tse, VE7MDT   Internet: [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 01:46:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!nih-csl!helix.nih.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Pet Peeve
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alan Bloom) writes:
>[e-mail] (Andrew Mitz) wrote:
>
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alan Bloom) writes:
>
>>>An easy alternative would be to use an audio detector hooked to a
>>>keying transistor.  That way, your friend could whistle or voice
>>>the code directly.
>>>
>>>I have also heard of mouth-activated switches that handicapped
>>>people have used to send code.
>
>>Let's put my friend in the 1990s, not the 1960s.
>
>You managed to hit one of my pet peeves squarely on the head.
>
>If a diode detector and a keying transistor can do the job, why
>replace them with a big complicated board full of "1990's technology?"
>Now, maybe the simpler solution doesn't do an adequate job, but you
>didn't say that.  In and of itself, the age of the technology used
>has nothing to do with whether it's a good choice or not.
>
>As an engineer, I am as susceptible to the "gee whiz" factor as anyone
>else.  It's always more fun to work on the latest technology -- we
>engineers have to work hard to resist the urge to overdesign products
>when a simpler, cheaper, more reliable solution exists.
>
>If there are good technical reasons for choosing one solution over
>another then present them, but to argue against something solely on the
>basis that it is old-fashioned is nothing more than technical hubris.
>

You have hit one of my pet peeves squarely on the head.  If I have
asked for information on speech recognition and I get 1) outdated
(thus ill-informed) opinions about speech technology, and 2) an
arm-chair quarterback recomendation to take another approach (clearly
not from someone who has worked with persons with handicaps), then
I feel no reply would have been better.  (At this point I want to extend
thanks to all those out in net land who withheld uninformed or
irrelevent responses.)

Short answer.  1990s technology is far more sensitive to the person's
needs.  First off, it makes him notice his handicap less if he can
speak to a computer than if he had to operate a suck/puff straw.
In fact, I doubt that he will operate CW if the adaptation is that
unnatural.  Second, the nature of his handicap leads to rapid fatigue.
His voice is strong.  I don't doubt that he could send CW other ways.
I am looking for the most natural way.  Read that: Human factors
engineering.


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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 08:51:30 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: POLICE BBS
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Date: 20 Apr 1994 15:10:04 GMT
From: olivea!news.bu.edu!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: software for PK 232
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron) writes:
-->>Does anyone know of better software (windows or dos) than Pakrat?  I would
-->
-->>like something a little more friendly, and that exhibits fewer freze-ups.
-->
-->>If it could send graphics, that would be a bonus.  I've looked in the ham
-->>mags, and can't seem to find anything.  I've heard that Pk-gold is good,
-->>but can't locate a source.  I need sources for all recomendations.  Thanks
-->
-->>to all respondants.
-->>
-->>Tom Medin
-->>[e-mail]
-->>N0UFM
-->>
-->I am quite happy with PKGOLD. It is a bit hard to learn and the
-->documentation STINKS although the online help is pretty good. It has a high
-->level of function. It does not support a mouse though. I would sure like to
-->see a windows version. I think it is the best available. I think MUCH
-->better could be produced.
-->
-->                   Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN
-->                   "Bailar es Vivir"
-->                   PGP2.3 key at key servers or upon request
-->

I have to seriously disagree with you Gil.  I have been using PkGold for
a few years now.  I just got my version 9 upgrade and the manual is
excellent.  Not only does it give great detail about PkGold features,
but goes into details about the necessary TNC features for the specific
manufacturers (AEA, Kantronics).  It also has very good and basic descriptions
of the various modes it supports.  It is a handy size and easy to carry
around if you need to.  If you really want to make a comparison, check it
out against the PcPakratt for Windows manual.

Yeah, you shell out a few bucks for PkGold but not much different that any
of the other first class packet/multi mode software packages.  Unfortunatley
you cannot realize the full usefullness of this program without using it
for a few months.  After that, you wonder how you will ever do without it.

I own registered versions of PkGOld and PkGold900 for different computers
using different TNCs.  The context sensitive help and the command line help
(example:  Enter a TNC parameter then hit F1) is by far the best in the
industry.





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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 07:44:47 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcom4![e-mail]
Subject: SS Jeremiah O'Brien Normandy voyage
To: [e-mail]

Some more info, from packet.
At one point they were at 33.28N 118.W (sic), course 142 degrees, 65
revs, 11.9 knots.  A later message indicates that they were into
Mexican waters, making 11.5 knots at 68 revs.  That's pretty good
speed, at relatively low revs, as I understand it.

All of this is my interpretation of some rather unclear packet
messages.  I could be wrong.
doug

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Date: 21 Apr 94 09:44:46 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!deep.rsoft.bc.ca!giant![e-mail]
Subject: The Confiscated HT Story (was Illinois anti scanner legisla)
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (William A. Kirsanoff) writes:

[repeated story deleted]
>
>I understand there was a fuss of some kind between the Sheriff's office and the
>County Supervisors over this. I'm more concerned about the FCC Engineer who not
>only let this happen, but participated. Perhaps Gary or someone else from the
>San Diego area could post an update.

I used to live in San Diego before, so I am especially interested in this
story.  Just like the LA Mayor could not fire Chief Gates of LAPD, I think
the SD SO chief is also not "afraid" of the CS (Dianne) of SDC. (that's
just my guess responding to your comment of "fuss.."  I think they thought
they have to enforce "something" in order to prevent people from using
their frequencies again, preventing abuse, even at all cost, protect their
frequencies....  Only that is an administrative frequency, not a dispatch
one, and is reserve for emergency etc.  I wish Chris could get his HT
back, but I think once he handed it over, it'd be very hard unless he has
a powerful lawyer and friends around :).  I remembered some years ago
when I was still living in SD, TV news were showing reports of civil rights
violations in the County Sheriff's jails (beating of cellmates, either
convicted or just in custody), and many many reports of similar cases.
It seems that the upper levels allow this to happen, and since the Sheriff
is voted in by local citizens, their structure is even more independent
than city PD.  There was also the case of a "rookie" Sheriff Deputy who
gunned down a driver after pursuit of traffic violation or something
like that, claiming that the driver was going after him in the parking
lot.  With many witness contrary to theirs, they closed up the area for
investigation.  One person died, and nothing happened, and not too long
later, it's gone on the news and people forgot about it.  With all these
precedence, I am not sure if this action by the SO is purely accidental
or merely not understanding "emergency traffic".  I think they think they
run the "law".

You think I must have a problem with them? Nope, I rarely have a run-in
with the Sheriffs at all when I was there. (not my area I usually go, not
cover by them.)

I wish Chris didn't hand in the HT and contest the Sheriff Office, and
hopefully ARRL or some groups would support them.  I am quite confident
the Sheriff do NOT have a case at all :). (Thanks, at least the court
system is still mostly independent, in most cases.)

For a good reading of the story, read the editorial on April issue of
Popular Communications (or latest issue), it basically covered the whole
story. but I'll give a bit here, where the juice is, so you don't have to
wait till getting the Pop. Com. :)

For those who don't know but the first half, where the emergency called
was made.  Here is the second half of the soap opera:
The civilian employee (not a sworn law enforcement officer) who contacted
Chris to come in for the talk, and did the warning about prosecution etc,
(name was in last article, but I forgot now.), was in hiking some weeks
later, and got lost himself (got sick in Pop. Comm. article version),
and he radioed the Sheriff Office which sent out a chopper (rather than
land transport for the first case), to resure him, only turn out that
he didn't need much medical assistance later, costing the county a few
hundred bucks.  He claimed authorized to use the radio, but in reality,
he was not on duty, and thus has no authority (those who understand
regulation more should correct here if it is not, I am only tell the
story, not making it.)  He was using similar channel/freq. as in first
case.  Of course it is ok, since he worked for the SO.

Somehow the news got out, and was published (following the interesting
first) on local paper (and later whole story on some tabloid in a
shorten version :), put up in HRO in SD.), can you imagine the howling
and "arrrrrrr" the people put out?  Thus, with so much fuss later,
somehow one County Supervisor had the city/county granted Chris an award
for "Good Samaritian".  And now both the FCC local guy and the Sheriff
Dept are low key and kept little comment on that.  Was it a bought out?
Was it used for political fight b/w the SO and CO? I don't know, but
I think Chris should have his HT back, still.

>73
>Wm. A. Kirsanoff              Internet: [e-mail]
>Rockwell International        Ham: KD6MCI
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Date: 20 Apr 1994 13:49:56 -0000
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!olivea!news.bu.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: W2A technical question
To: [e-mail]

Has anybody turned-up the mike gain on the W2A? Do you remember where the
pot was? That little schematic they send with the radio isn't very helpful.
Have you changed the plastic lens over the display? Any help appreciated.

Please email as I don't usually get the time to read this group.

73, Jim WB1B

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Date: 20 Apr 1994 14:20:36 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Wanted Tokyo Hy-Power VHF Linear Amp
To: [e-mail]

Wanted: Tokyo Hy-Power VHF Linear Amp.

Model HL-100V (I think)
10W in, approx 90W out
Receive Pre-amp

Contact Wayne Estes at [phone] or e-mail [e-mail]


73 de WD5FFH

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 08:46:22 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Internet > Packet gateways??

I don't have a list of other gateways, but you should probably be able to
find a list of them from an ftp site. Try ftp oak.oakland.edu. The only
other one that I use is n8fow (Detroit). That's 44.102.48.2. Good luck.

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